Issue15
As well as being president of the Conditional Immortality Association I also pastorThe Church of Christ (L&A) in Takanini and as part of my work with the AdventChristian Conference of New Zealand, the Randwick Park Christian Life Church.
The Randwick Park Christian Life church meets in a Council run Community house.
But we are not the only "spiritual" group that uses the building. There is our smallgroup of Bible believing Christians who meet there. There are three other groups ofspiritualists and mediums that meet there. These people are convinced that thereexist invisible, superhuman "spirit guides" wanting to make contact with people hereon earth. These people are convinced that it is possible and even desirable to makecontact with the spirits of human beings that have lived and died here on earth.
The Bible speaks of invisible, superhuman intelligences, called "angels" or "spirits"(Psa. 104:4, Heb. 1:13, 14), but these are not the ghosts of dead people. Theangels were there with God when he laid the earth's foundation's (Job 38:7). Lucifer,the anointed cherub, rebelled against God (Isa. 14:12-15, Ezek. 28:12-19). It seemsa third of the angels joined him in his rebellion (Rev. 12:7-9). Lucifer became "Sa-tan", the accuser. He and the rebellious fallen angels are still at work on earth.
Angels have the power to assume the appearance of human beings (Gen. 18:1-33,Heb. 13:2). Satan spoke to Eve in the Garden through the medium of a serpent(Gen. 3:1-4). Evil angels can speak through the "medium" of a human being. Asorcerer is one who gains power with the assistance of evil spirits, especially forpredicting the future (Acts 16:16, 18). Moses says that anyone who practices "divi-nation or sorcery" or "interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, or casts spells, orwho is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead" . "is "detestable to the Lord"(Deut. 18:9-12). Unless, they repent they will have no part in the world to come (Rev.
21:8, 22:15).
Spiritism is on the increase in our "enlightened" age. Paul warned Timothy, "TheSpirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceivingspirits and things taught by demons. (1Tim. 4:1). The fundamental doctrine that allthese spiritualist groups share is that which the devil told Adam and Eve in theGarden: "You will not surely die" . "you will be like God" (Gen. 3:4-5). "You have animmortal soul . you just get recycled to a higher spiritual plane."The Bible declares the opposite: "For the living know that they will die, but the deadknow nothing" (Ecc. 9:5). The Psalmist declares, "No one remembers you when heis dead." "Who praises you from his grave?" he asks (Psalm 6:5). Elsewhere hesays, "It is not the dead who praise the Lord, those who go down to silence" (Psa.
115:17). To what? To silence. Mortal human beings cannot save. "When their spirit[breath] departs, they return to the ground; on that very day their plans come to
nothing" (Psa. 146:3-4). "as a cloud vanishes and is gone sohe who goes down to the grave does not return." (Job. 7:9-10). The only remedy for error is the truth. The whole truthand nothin' but the truth. To attack the hydra of spiritualismby chopping at one of its many heads is almost pointless. Toslay the beast, one must go for the heart. The heart of spir-itualism is the belief in the immortality of the soul. The Wordof God is the sword of the Spirit. Conditional Immortality isthe finely honed edge to that sword which will cut through tothe heart of this demonic beast. Will you stand and fight?Are you using the weapon that God has provided?
Pastor David Burge
By Carl Josephson
In the last issue we began this series adapted from my Master'sThesis. The first chapter is onPaul's anthropology – what he understood each human was made of. Our conclusion was that,as in the Old Testament, Paul understood each one of us to be a single unit, a living soul, notmade up of two or three separable parts (body/ soul/ spirit). The outcome of this basis is thatfor Paul there was no thought of an immortal soul.
ports neither view. Rather than
involves the word pneuma
divide the person into three:
(wind, breath or spirit - in the
Paul's intention is just the op- LXX "chiefly and very frequently
posite: ‘May God … sanctify for ruach4 ). Pneuma "suggests
What follows is a brief survey
you through and through the knowing and willing self of
of some of the key anthropo-
[holoteleis]. May your whole man and as such reveals him to
logical terms Paul employs.
[holokleron] spirit, soul and be particularly apt to receive the
Whole books have been written
body be kept blameless' at Spirit of God."5 But Paul's use
on the subject so this is a fairly
Christ's return. Far from dis- varies considerably and it is not
superficial treatment of them -
secting the person, Paul ex- always certain as to his
the point being that they can be
presses the hope that believ- intended meaning. For example
read as coming from a monistic
ers may, by God's sanctifying in 1 Corinthians 14:2 pneumati
understanding of human makeup
work, be saved from disinte- may be translated ‘in the Spirit'
(the argument remaining open
gration and preserved as (NRSV) or ‘with his spirit' (NIV).
as to whether they should be
whole [holos] beings. He joins However Dunn notes that "there
read this way).
the three terms together has been a persistent view that
(here only in his letters) "for for Paul the human spirit is but
There are 15 appearances of
emphasis rather than for a manifestation of the divine
psuche (‘soul') or a derivative in
Spirit"6 and that is the position,
the major Pauline letters and the
reflecting the Hebrew Scriptural
NRSV shows the same sort of
D. Guthrie compares 1
position, that this paper adopts.
variety in translation as it does
Thessalonians 5:23 with the
with the equivalent Hebrew
Great Commandment in
Yet another important term for
word, nephesh, in the Penta-
Deuteronomy 6:5 and Matthew
Paul is soma (body). While at
teuch. Examples are: person,
22:37 in support of this.3 That
times Paul uses this term to
life, mind, soul, being, you, and
is, just as we do not regard the
speak only of the "physical
me.1 Only once is it
commandment to love God with
structure and substance"7 of a
translationed as ‘soul', in 1
all our heart, soul, mind and
human being (eg. Rom. 4:198 ;
Thessalonians 5:23, and this
strength as indicative of 4
1 Cor 13:39 ) he more frequently
has often been used in the de-
separable parts, but rather one
uses it in a far broader sense -
bate as to whether Paul under-
complete whole, so too we
"Man does not merely have a
stood there to be three parts
should understand 1
soma, he is a soma. …. It
(body, soul and spirit) or two
Thessalonians 5:23 as
denotes man as a whole, as a
(body and soul/spirit) to a hu-
emphasizing the whole.
unified, complex, living
man being. There is growing
organism."10 Thus Paul writes
recognition that this verse sup-
A rather more difficult case
to the Corinthians, "Your bodies
are members of Christ" (1 Cor
disobeying or ignoring the will
designate human capacity for
6:15) and four verses later,
of God. Putting it slightly
"Your body is a temple of the
differently, Moule says, "Man's
planning, and decision (cf. 1 Cor
Holy Spirit". By this Paul is not
predicament is not that he is
1:10; 2:16; Rom 14:5)" and the
just referring to "the physical
sarx, but that, via his sarx, sin
latter connotes "the more
body, as though the body was
got hold of him." And further,
responsive and emotional
something distinct from the
that this "explains why Paul
reactions of the intelligent,
whole person, but the body as
sometimes speaks of flesh as
planning self."19 Robert
the embodiment of the whole
a realm opposed to Spirit, and
Jewett, referring in particular to
associates it closely with sin."16
1 Corinthians 2:16 (‘mind of
This is a very important
Christ') and Romans 1:28
Related to soma is sarx, which
argument in assisting us to
(‘reprobate mind') says nous "is
is most often translated as
understand Paul's thinking. He
the constellation of thoughts and
‘flesh'. Once again Paul's use
does not believe that matter is
assumptions which makes up
is not absolutely uniform,
evil and spirit is good. What he
consciousness of the
sometimes using it as a
person and acts as the
synonym for soma (1 Cor
agent of rational
6:16; 2 Cor 4:10-11; cf. Gal
4:13; 6:17), but his more
communication." He
typical use is to denote
It is very humbling
then goes on to note that
"man in his natural, physical
the mind is treated "as
and visible existence, weak
an objectifiable, almost
and earthbound."12 As
spatial reality in 2 Thess.
Dunn notes, "the sinning ‘I'
c reatureliness as
2:2 and 1 Cor. 1:10."20
cannot distance itself from
This suggests Paul feels
the flesh. …. The problem
free to treat different
…is …'I (myself) am
fleshly.'"13 Or, as C.F.D.
existence almost as if
Moule puts it, "The fleshly
they truly were separate,
outlook … is self-centredness,
does say is that it is our very
but without ever compromising
it is Adam's refusal to accept
weakness as creatures that sin
the monistic anthropology he
his status as a creature."14 Our
uses to gain a hold over us - a
has. Indeed, were one so
suggestion is that this is one of
hold that is fatal. He also warns
inclined to build it, there
the major reasons many
that our spirit can be defiled or
appears to be a stronger case
Christians have held so tightly
contaminated (2 Cor 7:1).17
for Paul seeing mind as
to the Platonic notion of a(n
separable from body than there
immortal) soul - it is very
If a distinction can be made
is for him differentiating to the
humbling to accept our
between soma and sarx it is
same degree between psuche
creatureliness as beings of
that "the spectrum of meaning
dust. Yet, so we propose, this
for soma is for the most part
is the very essence of our status
morally neutral, whereas the
Robert Gundry argues that "in
before God as revealed in the
spectrum of meaning for sarx
monadic anthropologies God
Pentateuch and adhered to by
is for the most part morally
tends to become an
unnecessary encumbrance, orat best only a distant necessity"
However Paul does not
Further Pauline terms include
because man would then need
associate flesh with evil as if
nous (mind) and kardia (heart)
"nothing from the outside to be
flesh is evil (as some forms of
which are not sharply
himself."21 This begs the
Greek thinking propose).15 Evil
distinguished from each other
question as to whether Paul
is sin and the essence of sin is
although the former tends to
ever thought "being oneself" is
the goal of humanity. It rather
throughout the whole man"26 in
would seem that for Paul "being
effect somewhat nullifying his
6 Dunn, 77. He directs his readers to Gen 6:3;
in or with Christ" is the goal and
own argument.
Job 27:3; 32:8; 33:4; 34:14-15; Ps 104:29-30;Eccl 12:7; Isa 42:5; Ezek 37:5,6,8-10 in support
it is sinfulness and weakness,
not monism, that hinders this.
7 Webster's New World Dictionary of the
Gundry asks, "What in the
We conclude this chapter by
American Language. Second College Edition(1976) 157.
constitution of man requires
outlining our understanding of
8 Rom. 4:19 - And not weakening in faith he
God to be there with man?" and
Paul's anthropology. Human
considered his body to have died.
then replies "But in that man
beings are single units but,
9 1 Cor. 13:3 - And if I deliver my body in
order that I be burned.
exists as a unity of two
depending on where they are
10 Fitzmyer, 1406.
substances, spirit and body, he
viewed from, can be described
11 Dunn, 58.
requires the cohesive force of
by terms such as soma, sarx,
12 Fitzmyer, 1406.
13 Dunn, 66.
God for true and full being."22
or psuche. Other terms like
14 C.F.D. Moule, "St Paul and Dualism: The
This is not Pauline thinking. Our
nous and kardia are more
Pauline Conception of Resurrection." New
need for God is not expressed
specifically looking at one
Testament Studies 13 (1966-67) 106-23, at 113.
15 Eg. Aune, 296, writes , "The notion that the
in terms such as "true and full
aspect of our constitution. Paul,
body was intrinsically evil …(is)… generally
being" but as sinfulness and
following the Pentateuch, is
considered an Orphic or Pythagorean view
deserving death. And our
thoroughly monistic in his
adopted by Plato."
16 Moule, "Dualism," 113.
greatest need is not unity as
17 2 Cor. 7:1 … Let us cleanse ourselves from
such, but life. Indeed, life itself
every defilment of body and of spirit.
is a gift from God and for that
1 The full list is: selves (1 Thess 2:8), person
18 Dunn, 71.
19 Fitzmyer, 1407.
alone we are totally dependent
(Rom 13:1), mind (Phil 1:27), life (Rom 11:3;16:4; Phil 2:30), soul (1 Thess 5:23), (every)one
20 R. Jewett, Paul's Anthropological Terms:
on Him. Paul writes or implies
(Rom 2:9), being (1 Cor 15:45), me (2 Cor 1:23),
A Study of Their Use in Conflict Settings.
at different times of the
physical (1 Cor 15:44 (2x), 46), unspiritual (1
(Leiden: E.J. Brill, 1971) 450
necessity for the whole person
Cor 2:14), and you (2 Cor 12:15)
2 Chamblin, 770. The last phrase, "for
22 Gundry, 202.
to be saved - our body
emphasis rather than for definition," Chamblin
23 Eg. 1 Corinthians 9:27 - but I punish my
(soma)23 , our mind (nous)24
quotes from D. Guthrie, New Testament
body and enslave it, so that after proclaimingto others I myself should not be disqualified.
our spirit (pneuma)25 . This is
Theology (Downers Grove: InterVarsity, 1981)165.
24 Eg. Romans 1:28 - And since they did not
not in contradiction to monism
3 D. Guthrie, New Testament Theology
see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them
but rather showing the totality
(Downers Grove: InterVarsity, 1981) 165. See
up to a debased mind and to things that shouldnot be done.
of our limitations. Actually
also Dunn, 57.
4 G. Abbott-Smith, Manual Greek Lexicon
25 Eg. Romans 11:8 – as it is written, "God
Gundry doesn't deny this,
of the New Testament (3rd Ed. Edinburgh: T.
gave them a sluggish spirit, eyes that would
writing later that "The Pauline
& T. Clark, 1981) 367.
not see and ears that would not hear, down to
this very day".
answer is to locate evil
Fitzmyer, 1407.
26 Gundry, 216.
On Saturday, March 25th, 2000
At Takanini Church of Christ (L. & A.)
160 Great South Rd, Takanini
Beginning at 7.00pm
Meet with Hal Patterson (Director of World Missions), George Teshera
(Area Director for Asia / Pacific) and Russell Carle (An Advent Christian
Missionary to New Zealand). Anyone interested in the work of Advent Christian
Missions, New Zealand or in Conditional Immortality movements around the
world is welcome to attend. There will be a hymn sing and supper to follow.
" .But it was rewarding to finish each
bers of the faculty at Oro Bible College
The Kiwi ability to turn a hand to any-
day's labor and see that I had accom-
have lived in and over the last few years
thing and everything, and to adapt to pre-
plished something for Christ."
we have had discussions with our Fili-
vailing conditions has proved a great as-
So said a member of one of the six Work
pino brothers and sisters with the aim
set to past Teams, and will again undoubt-
Teams that we have sent out to serve the
of assisting them to improve those liv-
edly ensure that good progress is made
Lord in the Philippines and in India since
ing conditions. The prayer, planning and
on this year's project. Recent comment
discussions have come to fruition this
from Rev Hal Patterson, Director of
year as we send a great Team of four-
World Missions for Advent Christian
These words would be echoed by each
teen Kiwis to assist with the construc-
General Conference of America, who
of the forty one different people who
tion of a much needed two storied, four
has just returned from a visit to Oro Bi-
have been members of those Work
apartment accommodation block, on
ble College, indicates that
Teams - forty one people who have been
campus at the College, which will house
"Good progress has been made
richly blessed as they have served the
faculty members.
on the faculty housing in the Philip-
Lord on foreign fields, and who have
pines. They are anxious for the Team
been a blessing to those they went to
The project has been well researched and
to come to do most of the finishing up.
well designed and well organised by the
One of the things that thrills them in
the Philippines is not
Our seventh Work
only the work [the
Team leaves Auckland
Team] does, but also
the opportunity of fel-
on December 27,
lowship with a Team
bound for Oro Bible
from New Zealand. It
College in the city of
really means a
Cagayan de Oro in the
lot to the na-
When this Team re-turns, there will have
been 52 different peo-
ple who have been en-
gaged in Short-Term
tist and Presbyterian. It
Mission activity under
is heartening to see the
our auspices! We give
base from which our
thanks to God for the
privilege and the re-
drawn widening to in-
sponsibility of such
clude churches which
Board of Oro Bible College, and con-
are not "ex Churches of Christ". Many
struction is already well under way - so
of this year's Team have heard of our
Oro Bible College is the training centre
that when our Team arrives on site they
teams from friends and families, and
of the Philippine Advent Christian Con-
will be able to be of maximum assist-
have felt the Lord calling them to be in-
ference Inc., and this year has a roll of
ance. Foundations have been laid, con-
volved this year.
36 students (including 4 serving
crete floor slabs poured and supporting
internships in churches). These are
columns built - all of this paid for with
The Team includes four ladies who will
mainly young people who have re-
funds that we have sent up during the year.
have the very important responsibility of
sponded to the call of God to equip
There will be no waiting for concrete to
cooking for the Team - buying provi-
themselves for future service as pastors,
cure - our men will be able to start work
sions in the local market will be a new
teachers and leaders in the churches of
immediately they arrive! They will be
and different experience for them! Team
the Conference and in other Christian
involved in laying concrete blocks, con-
members' skills, abilities, experience
structing wooden internal partitions,
and ages cover a very wide range, and
putting the iron roof on the building,
together make a great Team which could
Members of previous Teams to the Phil-
making door and window frames, tiling,
only have been chosen by the Lord-
ippines have been very aware of the very
finishing, and a host of other tasks - all
poor living conditions that some mem-
done in the "interesting" Filipino way!!
Please support the team prayerfully
Please support the Team by going to
Philippine pesos or approximately
- as a whole and as individuals. Mem-
the airport to see them leave and to
NZ$100,000) but there are insufficient
bers of past Teams have testified to the
welcome them home. They leave on
funds available at this stage to enable the
value of the prayers of those at home on
Monday December 27, on Singapore
project to be completed. Team members
their behalf - this minis-
personally meet the cost
try is an important and
of their travel and living
essential one, and one
expenses whilst they are
which will bring daily
encouragement to each
receiving help from their
Team member.
churches. Contributions
Pray for safe travel
to the Team funds will
- the team has to
assist all Team members,
have two overnight
and contributions to the
Project fund will ensure
the earliest possible
completion of the badly
Singapore and one in
Pray for safety as
Our Team is going to
they work on the
the Philippines to
assist with the
teaching and
illness and accident of any kind.
Airlines flight SQ286 at 3.15pm. and
preaching of the Gospel in the
Pray for sweet fellowship that will
arrive home on Tuesday January 18,
be an encouragement to both the
2000 at 11.15am (Flight SQ285). They
The past team member who wrote the
Team members and to the Filipino
will be greatly encouraged to have
sentence at the beginning of this article
friends and supporters as well as family
also wrote "We received much more
Pray for those who have accepted
at the airport at those times.
than we gave our Filipino brothers and
sisters. We could see that God is not
the Team - that they may have
You can support the team and/or the
limited by lack of resources, that the
wisdom and patience.
project financially, should you wish to
lost find Christ when evangelism is a
Pray for the families of Team
way of life, that people lead spiritually
rich lives in the
midst of grinding
poverty, and finally
that the bond of
Christ's love is
stronger than iron
and cares nothing
about differences
of speech, clothing,
culture or color of
skin. May the Lord
touch others with
His love in New
Zealand and in
North America as
Left to right back
He does in the
Rachel Henderson,
Alan Raney (Project Leader), Vivienne
As always, we raise funds for the
looking to the Lord for similar
Raney, Lyn Cameron, Grant Cameron
purchase of materials for the project, to
blessings, and would appreciate your
(Chaplain), David Sadgrove.
ensure that our Teams' visits do not put
support for their ministry.
Left to right front row: Grant Aldridge
financial pressure on the Colleges. The
(Team Leader), Carl Josephson, Scott
Lord has wonderfully provided, through
Further information from Ernie
Tremaine, Kerryn Josephson, Alan
His people here in New Zealand, in the
United States and in the Philippines, a
phone 09 627 2124,
The other team member is Joe Ayers
substantial amount towards the cost of
the project (total cost is 2 million
November 1999
‘Isn't life strange'
Last wee k we were rung by the Police and told that our
camp van had been driven into a petrol station in the
W aikato area, fil ed with $20 worth of petrol and driven off without payment. They gave the registration plate number,
‘Kids camp'
the Police checked on ‘the' computer and came up with us. The only proble m was our van was being used by our staff
at the ‘time of offence' and further more our van ran o n
‘Teen camp'
diesel not petrol. They then decided it was a Holden Ute, not a van and very quickly released us from a ny part in the ‘said'
criminal action.
Someone said in the ‘12 Steps to Insanity'."we admitte d
Please pray
that we were po werless over nothing - that we could ma nage o ur lives perfectly and those of anyone who wo uld allo w us". Two things, at least, prove that wrong: firstly
some things happen which are beyo nd o ur control and secondly if we think we are
so powerful, ho w come we fail so much? Thank God for 2 Cor. 12:20 "When I am
weak the n I am strong". God is good!!
At Carey Park we see evidence of His goodness all the time. We have a need that
we can't do a whole lot about and God meets it.
♦ We were really stretched to do al the ‘Fol ow-up' properly, but now OAC are
doing it for us and tha t's so good. This is an importa nt part of our ministry because it's one thing to make a commitment to Christ, it's another to kee p
not return ♦ W e have a number of projects that we would like to do, but financially it's beyond
our resources, so we apply and receive funds from different Trusts for which we
are grateful. We are also grateful to a number of you folk who bless us with gifts and to the ‘CIA' for their assistance. Tha nks to the two people who left
something in their estates for CP., again we are grateful.
♦ Unfortunately Sean, Cherie and their two boys Joel & Ben are leaving us to
move to Tauranga. We will miss this family , they ha ve quickly become part of
us. They have large needs with their two boys who have muscular dystrophy -
please pray for them. Sheralyn too is leaving, s he wants to get back into a classroom full of kids. One of her favourite words is 'hullo' - ima gine wanting to
go back into a classroom of noisy kids.! Anyway we wish them al God's
blessing and look forward to see where their lives take them next.
♦ Wouldn't you guess it though, we had a need - more staff and God met it for us.
So here we are lookin g for replacements and God brings across our
paths, two gu ys with just the skills we need. Let me introduce them.
Cam & Sandy Dick and their two children, Ashleigh & Nathan, will be joining
us in January. Cam will be largely on maintenance an d administration , along
with running holiday camps. They have just finished B.C.N.Z. Ca m has also
been very active in Scripture Union camps.
Jarrod & Geraldine Seaton will also come on board in January. Jarrod will be
doing a ‘changed teachers' job, (the job's changed not the teacher) he will also be on
maintenan ce and holiday camps. Jarrod has worked in another camp before
so we are looking forward to him coming. Geraldine is Ralph & Hazel Woods
granddaughter (Graham & Joan's daughter)
So these folks will be joining our team and we're looking forward to that.
⇒ Like everyone else we are asking the question - what will the New
Millennium bring for us?
⇒ New staff. (please pray for them and us - thanks)
⇒ We continue to strive for financial stability and because of the impact of
our economy th at's n ot easy.
⇒ One of our goals is to continue to expand our ministry opportunities.
⇒ We continue to seek good new leaders to go with those we have for our
holiday camps. (if you know of some please let Tim know 837 0494)
⇒ Angela (and Dave), Dave & Emma, Cindy (and Aaron) - some of our
⇒ leaders - are getting married in December. Please pray for these as they
have an experience even more exciting than leading in a camp at CP.
⇒ Our Father & Son & Mother & Dau ghter camps were very goo d th is year,
although small. We want to see these continue next year with even greater
effect. (one mother- a new Christian - got baptised two weeks after the M & D camp, one father
decided he needed to get back to church)
⇒ As was mentioned we have a number of projects lined up and could do
with some physical assistance, like painting, building, electrical or just
manual labour. The maintenance and development in a place like this is
enormous and any help we can get - whacko!!! (give Tim a ring)
⇒ If you kn ow an yone you think h as relevant skills and would help on our
Trust Board eg. in the areas of management, promotion, secretarial etc.
then please ring Wayne (09) 827 6857 (he would love to hear from you!!)
Th e challenge of the next century is there for us all. Let me give you another
quote: Challenge: ‘Christians are like teabags. The flavour only comes out when we
are placed in hot water. Something is seriously wrong if we are not experiencing
some form of resistance to our ministries'. God bless you in whatever you are doing
for Him right now, be it praying, giving, serving, doing - whatever. As we give He
multiplies it and great things happen for His kingdom through "whatever our hand
finds to do"
If I Should Wake Before I Die:
The Biblical and Medical Truth about Near-Death Experiences.
By H. Leon Greene M.D.
There is a whole host of beliefs in the world today ing through carefully as it offers a good outline ofthat are often adopted and adapted by Christians where medical research and understanding of thewithout careful examination against the truth of Scrip- human brain is at. His conclusion on the subjectture. Near-Death Experiences (NDEs) are an ex- of the book is that "brain perfusion . seems to beample of this. People from all walks of life, from all the most feasible explanation of the origin of thereligious and ethnic backgrounds are
NDE." This begins with decreased blood flow to
claiming encounters with ‘god' after ex-
the brain triggering the sensations reported
periencing ‘death' and then being re-
with NDEs, followed by the brain try-
vived. Dr Greene pulls no punches
ing to ‘make sense' of the
as to what he believes. He writes,
unusual sensory inputs,
"As a Christian cardiologist I view
which it does in a way that
these descriptions of the NDE to be
is consistent with the back-
at variance both with my own clini-
ground of the person having
cal observations of patients and
with my Christian beliefs."
The final section deals with the
The book is a clear and logical
Bible and while this is a very in-
presentation of why he views
teresting and well-reasoned sec-
NDEs like this. The first sec-
tion I couldn't help but think that had
tion defines the NDE and
Dr Greene understood conditional
overviews many of the ma-
immortality his case would have
jor researchers and propo-
been that much stronger. The Bible
nents of the popular con-
does not speak of us going to heaven
cept. It concludes with a
or ‘hell' at the time of death, but rather
chapter raising some of
following the Day of Judgment, after the
the major questions that need
glorious return of our Lord.
to be asked, such as "Is the methodol-ogy for studying the NDE valid?" "Is it actually
Overall this is a very good book and I
necessary to be near death to experience the NDE?"
would freely recommend it to those inter-
"Can the NDE be produced by means other than ested in a careful, reasoned approach to the sub-being near death?" "Is the NDE identical around the ject. As Tal Brooke, President of Spiritual Coun-world?" The doubts raised under these headings terfeits Project, writes on the back cover, "If youare worth serious thought by those, Christian or not, are among the millions who have read Embracedwho believe the experiences are a valid work of God. by the Light or Saved by the Light, do yourself a
favor and read this book!"
The second section deals with "Medicine and the
Near-Death Experience." I found this section of thebook to be a fairly ‘heavy' read because despite DrGreene's efforts at making it understandable by non- If I Should Wake Before I Die is published by Crossway Books,medical readers the use of a certain amount of medi- a division of Good News Publishers, Wheaton Illinois, 1997.
cal jargon was unavoidable. However it is worth read- Ask at you local Christian bookseller.
My recent studies challenged
have been placed at the right
any healthy, growing relation-
me to ‘open the case' against
epistemic distance from God
ship is to know the other per-
conditional immortality again.
to make a real decision. From
son better. Just because we
As I read dozens of articles
this point we can move toward
will never fully know our
and books related to my The-
God or turn away.1
spouse is no reason to give
sis topic, from many different
up! Our goal as believers and
points of view, I sought to re-
This is a freedom that lasts
followers is to keep growing
assess my understanding
through out our life time. We
in knowledge and understand-
once more. It was a good
remain free to choose to be
ing of our Creator.
exercise. Not only have I be-
open to God or to be content
come even more convinced of
with where we are at (and go
It is not uncommon for us to
the truth of ‘life only in Christ',
backwards? - "He not busy
think it a matter of pride that
but my love and appreciation
being born is busy dying"2 ). It
we are doctrinally correct, as
of God for who He is has
astounds and disappoints me
well we might be on this mat-
how readily we Christians
ter of conditional immortality,
give up searching for deeper
but there is so much more to
As I study and think and write
truth and a richer understand-
our understanding, even on
and preach I realise afresh
ing of God. We so easily fall
this doctrine, that there is no
that the prime reason for ac-
into the trap of limiting God to
room for complacency. The
cepting the call of the Gospel
our own understanding. We so
Pharisees were correct to
is, or should be, a positive re-
quickly assume our under-
expect a resurrection, but
sponse to the character of the
standing is correct that we fail
many of them still failed to
Almighty Creator and Re-
to see the need to keep learn-
believe in Jesus' resurrection.
deemer. He reveals Himself
ing and changing. It is a
We must not fail to be ready
in His Son as the God who
strange irony that as Chris-
to keep learning, being open
calls, but never forces, us to
tians we verbally acknowl-
to challenge and change as
worship Him; who opens the
edge the need for constant
others bring the word to us.
way for our fellowship with
change because of our sinful-
This doesn't mean being
Him; who goes to all lengths
ness, yet we are often the
"tossed about by every wind
to restore us into the image in
most reluctant to change.
of doctrine', but rather exam-
which we were originally cre-
ining the Scriptures daily to
ated. I am amazed at His
God is infinite and we are lim-
see if what others say is so.
grace, and astounded at the
ited and finite, so by definition
freedom He has given us to
our quest for Truth can never
1 Clark Pinnock, Flame of Love: A
choose to follow or to ignore
end – we can never reach a
Theology of the Holy Spirit (IVP:
Him. Clark Pinnock writes:
complete appreciation of the
Downers Grove, 1996)
nature of God.
2 Bob Dylan, It's Alright, Ma (I'm
Human beings are placed
Only Bleeding) Copyright 1965 by
in a position in which it is pos-
Warner Bros. Inc.
What then, shall we give up
sible to be aware of God or
because we cannot ever
not to be aware, to respond
reach the end of our task?
Carl Josephson
to God or not to respond. We
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